QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
^^^ its BS like this. This dude is only here to troll.

"At what point do we say this is the same guy?"
then acknowledges that they play different.

Also forget the fact, one players contribution being much more than the other.

yeah.. he's still a little heated about jimmy so he has to troll now lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what point and what results? Jimmy's best year (with the entire cast) was Brock's worst (no cast)

Jimmy can't get to Brock level is the true result

jimmy's best was SB L to KC same as brock.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what point and what results? Jimmy's best year (with the entire cast) was Brock's worst (no cast)

Jimmy can't get to Brock level is the true result

jimmy's best was SB L to KC same as brock.

nah, it doesn't work that way

Originally posted by SD49er:
Even if Purdy's average salary per year (as opposed to his actual guaranteed money which is all that really matters) does not significantly exceed the top of the current market, I do not understand the objection to paying him.

1. Purdy is at minimum very good with the potential to be elite. He is still young and should be ascending.
2. The 49ers do not generally negotiate bad contracts. The guaranteed money is likely to result in the deal being a two year extension, or three year deal, with a bunch of money on the back end that will allow the team to get out of the deal if Purdy fails to meet expectations just like the team did with Jimmy.
3. The cap continues to go up significantly, as just happened. Contracts that first appear egregiously high fade into the realm of reasonable within a season or two.
4. Most importantly, what is the opportunity cost of paying Purdy a max type deal? To me this is actually all that really matters because fans should not care about the actual money – we aren't paying it.
   1. Which current 49er will the team be unable to extend because the team pays Purdy? Ward? The team can afford to resign him if they want but (a) they drafted his replacement and (b) he's likely gone anyway because of his personal tragedy. Huff? Who wants to pay Huff a large contract? Greenlaw? The team can pay resign Greenlaw, extend Kittle, and extend Jennings even with a monster deal for Purdy. The sad fact is the team does not have any young players coming up for big deals because the team's 2022 and 2023 drafts were complete trash, except for Purdy.
   2. Who are the free agents we should and could sign that the team will be unable to sign because of Purdy's deal? If the team wants to sign D.J. Reed and D.J. Jones the team can and still pay Purdy. Who is the team losing?
   3. The only player the team could potentially be unable to go in on because of Purdy is Myles Garrett (assuming he would even want to come here). But trading major comp for Garrett and giving him the massive extension he wants would be a catastrophic decision. This team needs to build through the draft again. The lack of depth this past year really showed as evidenced by the amount of snaps the entire rookie class played. The team's 2022 and 2023 drafts were absolute trash. The Trey Lance and McCaffrey trades decimated our early picks and the team screwed the pooch on the later round picks. This team is not one player away. If this team is going to continue to compete it has to build through the draft.
   4. Who is the QB who is replacing Purdy if we let him play the last year of his deal and he leaves in free agency? Does the fanbase think we will be drafting even 11 again after the 2025 season with Purdy playing? Who are we drafting? Sanders? Ward? Who are we drafting next year, and even if we do draft a QB after next season, why can't we have both? Who is the free agent QB who is going to be better than Purdy? Darnold? Cousins? None of these things are or should happen.
   5. I think he's a baller, but even if you don't, the difference in 40 mil per year and 55 mil per year is not damaging the team's ability to compete down the road.
5. Purdy is capable of winning a Super Bowl. He led comebacks against Green Bay and Detroit. Notably, he never left the field losing in the SB until the very end.

The team absolutely should extend Purdy and run it with him the next 2-3 years and if he sucks have an escape hatch which they almost always do.

This pretty much nails it.

There are no starters to resign because the drafts have been so bad in recent years.

We haven't even brought in any free agents difference makers.

Who have we brought in: hargrave, Kwon Alexander, Floyd, Gregory, Dee Ford... Freaking bust after bust.

The only exception being Ward.

Most likely they'll just burn the money on some has been anyway so you might as well just make the purdy deal easy right?

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
This pretty much nails it.

There are no starters to resign because the drafts have been so bad in recent years.

We haven't even brought in any free agents difference makers.

Who have we brought in: hargrave, Kwon Alexander, Floyd, Gregory, Dee Ford... Freaking bust after bust.

The only exception being Ward.

Most likely they'll just burn the money on some has been anyway so you might as well just make the purdy deal easy right?

lol to get to 4 NFCCGs and 2 SBs there are guys we drafted and brought in to make a difference

and Purdy's new contact will not stop us from adding to the team

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by miked1978:
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Define limited. 7 teams would have immediate interest and all it takes is one team to drive up the price. Not all of them will be willing to pay $60 million but like i said all it takes is 1 team and that's the leverage he has. If you got a team like the Browns willing to give a record breaking guaranteed contract to a sexual predator you bet you butt someone would be willing to give squeaky clean Brock Purdy a nice fat contract.

Titans
Browns
Giants
Jets
Colts
Saints
Raiders

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I got my pops in my head telling me as a kid, "so because your friends are jumping off the bridge, does that mean you have to too?"

it's stupid that the 49ers are paying Brock what they are about to pay him but at this point it's inevitable. He's gonna get paid. Just like Aiyouk, Trent, and CMC. It's gonna be a bad co tract as soon as he signs it. I just wonder how long it's gonna be before fans here start b***hing about it.

Jones, Tua, Lawrence……it didn't take long for their fans to realize just how bad those contracts were.

Just worry about yourself.

Fans don't pay salaries and complaining about hypotheticals is a waste of everyone's time unless we're talking about what FA or draft moves we'd like to see happen.

Our posts here won't influence the 49ers or Brock's people so how about we just wait and see the details?

The posts of "I would only offer him X and not Y" always crack me up. You're not paying him and I'm sure most of us would love to be in position where we could pay him that type of money.

It's pretty simple - if the 49ers see him as their future at the position like they said, the deal will get done. We've already been through this with Jimmy and somehow we survived. Virtually every QB due for his new contract gets the headlines "highest paid QB contract" or certainly in the ball park. Few of those deals end up being something really scary once the dust settles.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i think he's mentioned baker mayfield
he just went for 4500 and 41 TDs and makes 100m over 3, or 33m aav.

i see the point he is making. if the player wants to say dak makes this, the club should be able to say well baker makes that, and he had a better year than you did

Your posts are just maddening because of how illogical they are. Baker's 2024 season couldn't possibly be more irrelevant to his salary or to this conversation in general. He signed his deal 2 years prior to putting up those numbers and his resume before he signed isnt in the same stratosphere as Brocks is.

what resume? try playing for cleveland. then see what the resume looks like. i try to view brock for what he is and understand he entered an elite situation. in 2022 i think most ppl were stunned he's even a functional guy, and he was balling. in 2023, the team was loaded, and we probably peaked some time around the philly beatdown. 2024 he did not have a good year.

What resume? Baker Mayfield ever finish top 5 in MVP voting? He ever help lead a team to the NFCCG or SB?

Why are you being so disingenuous in these conversations?

Mayfield did not have a great start to his career. He spent 2022 on 3 teams! He had a pretty good season in 2023 with the Bucs and signed a mid level deal to get some guaranteed money and stability. Do you think had he been eligible for a contract after this past year he would've signed the same deal? He'd be asking for substantially more money.

Brock has 40 something starts. Funny how nobody had concerns about Trevor Lawrence getting a new deal or Jordan Love but Brock "regressed" when the whole team did the same and should now take a deal comparable to a guy who bounced around the league after not performing to his draft status?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what point and what results? Jimmy's best year (with the entire cast) was Brock's worst (no cast)

Jimmy can't get to Brock level is the true result

jimmy's best was SB L to KC same as brock.

This is definitely coming off as trolling…

Like I refuse to believe you compared them while being serious.

Originally posted by genus49:
Brock has 40 something starts. Funny how nobody had concerns about Trevor Lawrence getting a new deal or Jordan Love but Brock "regressed" when the whole team did the same and should now take a deal comparable to a guy who bounced around the league after not performing to his draft status?

First round picks that the teams extended their previously-heavy investment in. I'm sure their brass had concerns,...but when you've already spent a 1st (or Top OVERALL) pick on a guy,....what are you saying to everyone when you look the other way so soon?

Jordan Love had a 1-yr "prove-it" deal before his multi-yr extension, btw, didn't he?


Since this is all about investment, the harsh reality is that this is an extremely unique situation. Virtually every comparison you can come up with regarding them getting new deals is gonna be bad.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what point and what results? Jimmy's best year (with the entire cast) was Brock's worst (no cast)

Jimmy can't get to Brock level is the true result

jimmy's best was SB L to KC same as brock.

This is definitely coming off as trolling…

Like I refuse to believe you compared them while being serious.

$20 if you put him on TO till the season starts

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what point and what results? Jimmy's best year (with the entire cast) was Brock's worst (no cast)

Jimmy can't get to Brock level is the true result

jimmy's best was SB L to KC same as brock.

This is definitely coming off as trolling…

Like I refuse to believe you compared them while being serious.

$20 if you put him on TO till the season starts

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what point and what results? Jimmy's best year (with the entire cast) was Brock's worst (no cast)

Jimmy can't get to Brock level is the true result

jimmy's best was SB L to KC same as brock.

This is definitely coming off as trolling…

Like I refuse to believe you compared them while being serious.

$20 if you put him on TO till the season starts

Genus could make some good money out of this gig. Off the top of my head there's probably 40-50 who would sign up for this. Throw in DrL and SanDiego, he would be richer than Webbie. Think about it, Genus

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Genus could make some good money out of this gig. Off the top of my head there's probably 40-50 who would sign up for this. Throw in DrL and SanDiego, he would be richer than Webbie. Think about it, Genus

Today the WZ, tomorrow the nation, Genus 2028

How Purdy's contract situation will go on until he finally signs.

They sign my boy Dirty Purdy, yet?